Aack! You?ve taken the argument I called a red herring, and actually turned it into a red herring (figurative meaning) in this dialogue.
I only mentioned the argument, and did so briefly, because I wanted to set it aside so we could concentrate on the present issue.
To go overboard on the hunting metaphors, you are starting too many hares.
I'm sticking with the original issue. Though I admit it amuses me how much you sound like the Libertarian Atheists I know.
Janet